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		<title>Find us on Facebook!</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wondering how the roadtrip is going? Thinking about meeting up with us somewhere and want to know the current schedule? Just feeling a little underwhelmed by the blog? Check out our <a href="http://www.facebook.com/pages/craggingorg-Road-Trips/190761945205">Facebook page</a>! It&#8217;s the best source of information about what&#8217;s happening in the <strong>cragging.org</strong> community.</p>
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		<title>Rideshare to El Potrero Chico</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[If anyone in the southeast US is interested in sharing a ride to El Potrero Chico for the big New Year&#8217;s Eve party, I&#8217;ll be leaving in a van from south Florida on 28-Dec. My route will take me along the Gulf coast to the border crossing at Laredo, Texas. I don&#8217;t mind deviating from [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If anyone in the southeast US is interested in sharing a ride to El Potrero Chico for the big New Year&#8217;s Eve party, I&#8217;ll be leaving in a van from south Florida on 28-Dec. My route will take me along the Gulf coast to the border crossing at Laredo, Texas. I don&#8217;t mind deviating from the route a little if you&#8217;re in need of a pick-up. I&#8217;ll be asking for everybody to split the cost of gas with me. If you&#8217;re interested, please email <a href="mailt:cragging.org@gmail.com">cragging.org@gmail.com</a>. Happy holidays! ~br</p>
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		<title>A year of North America&#8217;s best climbing!</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[cragging.org announces its first American road trip. Between the fall of 2009 and the summer of 2010 we'll be visiting the best climbing that US, Canada, and Mexico have to offer. Read on for further details and a complete schedule.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>cragging.org</strong> announces its first American road trip! For the duration of 2010, we&#8217;ll be visiting the best climbing that US, Canada, and Mexico have to offer. World-class trad, sport, and bouldering destinations to include:</p>
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<div style="float: left; width: 25%;"><strong>Winter</strong></p>
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<li>El Potrero Chico</li>
<li>Hueco</li>
<li>Reimer&#8217;s Ranch</li>
<li>Enchanted Tower</li>
<li>Jack&#8217;s Canyon</li>
<li>Priest Draw</li>
<li>Joshua Tree</li>
<li>Black Mountain</li>
<li>Tram</li>
<li>Needles</li>
<li>Stoney Point</li>
<li>Clark Mountain</li>
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<div style="float: left; width: 25%;"><strong>Spring</strong></p>
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<li>Red Rocks</li>
<li>Mount Charleston</li>
<li>Arrow Canyon</li>
<li>Virgin River Gorge</li>
<li>Veyo</li>
<li>Zion</li>
<li>Indian Creek</li>
<li>Joe&#8217;s Valley</li>
<li>American Fork</li>
<li>Little Cottonwood Canyon</li>
<li>Logan Canyon</li>
<li>Maple Canyon</li>
<li>Ibex</li>
<li>Bishop</li>
<li>Yosemite</li>
<li>Lost Rocks</li>
<li>Smith Rock</li>
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<div style="float: left; width: 25%;"><strong>Summer</strong></p>
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<li>Squamish</li>
<li>Little Si</li>
<li>Leavenworth</li>
<li>Riggins</li>
<li>Grand Tetons</li>
<li>Ten Sleep</li>
<li>Sinks Canyon</li>
<li>Wild Iris</li>
<li>Rifle</li>
<li>RMNP</li>
<li>Carter Lake</li>
<li>Poudre Canyon</li>
<li>Vedauwoo</li>
<li>Eldo</li>
<li>Mount Evans</li>
<li>Clear Creek</li>
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<div style="float: left; width: 25%;"><strong>Fall</strong></p>
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<li>Cathedral Ledge</li>
<li>Rumney</li>
<li>Pawtuckaway</li>
<li>Lincoln Woods</li>
<li>The Gunks</li>
<li>Coopers Rock</li>
<li>The New</li>
<li>The Red</li>
<li>Obed</li>
<li>Hound Ears</li>
<li>Rock Town</li>
<li>Little Rock City</li>
<li>Foster Falls</li>
<li>T-Wall</li>
<li>Little River Canyon</li>
<li>Sand Rock</li>
<li>Horsepens</li>
<li>Horseshoe Canyon Ranch</li>
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<p>Promoting climbing as a vehicle for responsible travel, environmental stewardship, and cultural exchange, <strong>cragging.org</strong> runs its road trips as non-profit, community-building programs. Climb with us for a week or a year. Participants will only be billed for actual and reasonable costs. It&#8217;s cheaper, greener, and healthier than dirtbagging! See our <a href="http://cragging.org/road-trips/">road trips</a> page or read on for a complete schedule and other details.</p>
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<p>We've moved our scheduling to our <a href="http://www.facebook.com//pages/craggingorg-Road-Trips/190761945205">Facebook page</a>. Check there for an up-to-date itinerary.</p>
<p>Estimated daily cost: $30 per person. Airport pickup available upon request. Email <a href="mailto:craggin.org@gmail.com">cragging.org@gmail.com</a> for more information, or proceed to <a href="http://cragging.org/wp-register.php">our member site</a> to join.</p>
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		<title>An imminent threat to climbing in Vietnam</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 13:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hidden in a maze of water-borne karsts on Ha Long Bay, Vietnam, is a small beach that is only accessible at low tide. Few people know how to find it. Towering over the beach is a limestone cliff holding scores of bolts and hangers left by sport-climbing visionaries Lynn Hill and Todd Skinner in the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hidden in a maze of water-borne karsts on Ha Long Bay, Vietnam, is a small beach that is only accessible at low tide. Few people know how to find it. Towering over the beach is a limestone cliff holding scores of bolts and hangers left by sport-climbing visionaries Lynn Hill and Todd Skinner in the 1990s. The routes are classics in an otherworldly setting, and are worth traveling around the world for. The basket boat wanders slowly toward the beach while we eye the water line beyond, where it laps the naked cliff. We&#8217;re scouting a new solo line, Ha Long Bay having been made a Dosage-featured DWS hotspot. Like so many others, we came for a few days of soloing &#8211; &#8220;a brief stop on the way south&#8221; &#8211; but ended up staying a month. Ha Long Bay is the new Tonsai Beach.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-124" title="Floating villages in Ha Long Bay" src="http://cragging.org/wp-content/uploads/p1000763-0-modified-2-1024x263.jpg" alt="Floating villages in Ha Long Bay" width="512" /></p>
<p>Behind the scenes, keeping the classics in good shape, dealing with the persnickety boatmen, navigating the red tape of climbing in a UNESCO world heritage sight, and generally putting Vietnam on the map as an up-and-coming destination are Onslo (&#8220;Slo&#8221;) Carrington and Erik (&#8220;Pony&#8221;) Ferjentsik of <a href="http://www.slopony.com">Slo Pony Adventures</a>. With a strong stewardship message and a sizable tourist draw, you&#8217;d think the Vietnamese officials would be pinning medals on these guys. Not so. Instead, the Slo Pony team, a bunch of Westerns &#8220;squatting&#8221; in Vietnam, has to do circus tricks and drop loads of cash to procure and maintain every little bit of access that we climbers have to The Bay. They are doing the hard work in an even harder place, moving things forward for the benefit of our community, and now find themselves in need of the community&#8217;s help.</p>
<p>Much of Slo Pony&#8217;s business comes not from guiding The Bay, but from taking newbies out to a land-locked crag know as Butterfly Valley. This striking limestone wall rises behind the rural village of Lien Mihn in the jungle interior of Cat Ba Island, and is home to tons of moderates and a handful of crank-till-you-crack hard sport routes such as <em>Enter the Dragon</em> and <em>Dreamweaver</em>. Butterfly Valley has been developed exclusively by Erik, Slo, and visiting international climbers, and is the focal point for an entire nation&#8217;s climbing community. It is also in imminent danger of being closed, permanently. Here&#8217;s the story, straight from the Pony&#8217;s mouth:</p>
<blockquote><p>[Vietnamese] law requires that land must be &#8220;acquired&#8221; in order to engage in tourist activities. Until now Slo Pony Adventures has been paying rent, palm greasing, and other fees to the local authorities on Cat Ba Island in order to maintain access at [Butterfly Valley] for climbers.</p>
<p>It was a recent argument between the local people of Lien Mihn and the village officials (unrelated to rock climbing) that sparked speculation by Hai Phong City, the provincial owner of the land. The speculation resulted in Hai Phong City claiming [the village] and Cat Ba have no right to rent us the land, that we must rent it from Hai Phong City.</p>
<p>In order to rent land from HPC, you need to complete an arduous proposal for &#8220;tourism development&#8221; in the exact format required by the government and done by a professional. Then you need to have various meetings with various officials sponsored by the petitioning party (with palm greasing) to move the proposal through the complex bureaucracy of offices that must accept the proposal.</p>
<p>We are told that once we submit the proposal we will be granted conditional access to [Butterfly Valley] during the waiting time for Hai Phong to give the final approval of the tourism development project proposal. Once accepted, we will be given a 50 year lease of the crag and easements.</p></blockquote>
<p>Note the repeated use of the term &#8220;palm greasing.&#8221; Slo Pony expects to need at least $3000 to push the proposal through the local bureaucrats and, budgets suffering from the slump in tourism, are in need of financial support. If you&#8217;ve ever climbed in Vietnam or think you&#8217;d ever like to, here&#8217;s your chance to contribute to the survival of its most important climbing resource. <a href="https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&amp;hosted_button_id=7368567">PayPal it here</a>. No donation is too small and every bit counts!</p>
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		<title>Help Wanted</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 11:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Want to get involved with a grassroots organization that is committed to serving a community that you really care about? <strong>cragging.org</strong> is looking for help with a couple of our programs. If you&#8217;re interested in volunteering a bit of time, we&#8217;d love to have you!</p>
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Got any good climbing stories? What about news from your local crag? Or a PhD thesis about contemporary issues in the climbing world? We&#8217;re looking for community contributions to our blog.</div>
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We want this website to be a focal point for the global climbing community. If we&#8217;re going to succeed, we need our content to appear in as many languages as possible. Come on! You know you wanna practice your Chinese!</div>
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We&#8217;re going to be rolling out a couple of sweet-ass Facebook applications in a few of weeks. If you&#8217;ve got web development skills, we could use a hand polishing them up and doing a bit of beta-testing.</div>
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<p>Want to get involved? Shoot us an <a href="mailto:cragging.org@gmail.com">email</a>.</p>
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		<title>Access issues in Yangshuo</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Following a successful visit by Chris Sharma in April, access to Yangshuo&#8217;s premier crag has been throw into question this month. On Saturday morning White Mountain was the scene of a thirty-minute stand-off between a multi-national group of climbers and local farmers who are unhappy about the outcome of talks with Yangshuo&#8217;s climbing association. The [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Following <a href="http://www.climbing.com/news/hotflashes/sharma_working_515a_in_china/">a successful visit by Chris Sharma in April</a>, access to Yangshuo&#8217;s premier crag has been throw into question this month. On Saturday morning White Mountain was the scene of a thirty-minute stand-off between a multi-national group of climbers and local farmers who are unhappy about the outcome of talks with Yangshuo&#8217;s climbing association. The confrontation was the second this month. Three weeks ago a small group of climbers was threatened with farm tools and, after calling the police, were made to leave White Mountain. Several routes were subsequently vandalized. Climbers have chosen to stay away from the crag since, but heavy rains in Yangshuo sent them looking for steep terrain last week.</p>
<p>On Friday, representatives from Yangshuo&#8217;s guiding companies met with the farmers, who have a legitimate legal claim to the land adjacent to White Mountain. It is reported that the farmers demanded 10,000 CNY for continued access to the crag. The climbing association balked at this figure, setting the stage for yesterday&#8217;s confrontation.</p>
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<div id="attachment_96" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 522px"><img class="size-large wp-image-96" title="White Mountain" src="http://cragging.org/wp-content/uploads/p1000303-modified-1024x576.jpg" alt="Yangshuo's White Mountain" width="512" height="238" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Yangshuo&#39;s White Mountain</p></div>
<p>Says Bob Keaty (USA), a Yangshuo regular: &#8220;The problem is that the climbing association doesn&#8217;t have the same interests as the independent climbers that visit White Mountain. The association represents the guiding companies in Yangshuo town. These companies don&#8217;t guide White Mountain because the climbing is too steep for beginners. They don&#8217;t depend on it for revenue, so of course they&#8217;re not going to be willing to pay to maintain access.&#8221;</p>
<p>Keaty, a long-time resident of Shanghai who is fluent in Mandarin, accompanied the group of climbers to White Mountain on Saturday morning, expecting trouble. Arriving at the crag, they found a few locals, all younger men, crowding a party from France that had arrived just minutes earlier. The village headman, meanwhile, was talking loudly on his cell phone at the top of an adjacent hill, the anger in his voice obvious. Keaty quickly went to speak with him, but more farmers soon arrived from the nearby village. While the climbers outnumbered the farmers twenty to seven, a tense atmosphere prevailed for several minutes before Keaty and the village headman could come to a temporary resolution.</p>
<p>In an attempt to make the farmers feel better about our presence, Marcus <span class="url fn">Oechsner</span> (Germany) and I made a short expression of our gratitude for being able to climb at White Mountain. Keaty interpreted for us, and we were received positively by the farmers. Their group graciously invited us to return to our climbing and dispersed shortly thereafter. Keaty went to the home of the headman to put the details of their complaint into writing. He later reported on a productive discussion:</p>
<p>&#8220;These are a poor but generous people, and they&#8217;d like to make a bit of money for allowing us continued access. Their chief complaint is that we arrive in taxi vans and contribute to the erosion of their dirt roads. This complaint seems legitimate, so I suggested that we might walk or ride bikes to the crag, thereby not damaging the roads. They didn&#8217;t seem pleased with this suggestion. I also suggested that we might buy our water and snacks from the village, providing them with some income. I think, in the end, we may just have to pay a few yuan each day to have access to the crag.&#8221;</p>
<p>Word travels fast between the little villages outlying Yangshuo, and there is concern within the climbing community that such an arrangement might set a dangerous precedent. Climbers have enjoyed hassle-free access to world-class limestone sport climbing for many years in Yangshuo, and loathe the idea of having to pay to climb at the area&#8217;s many crags. As a result of the interaction, though, I am not convinced that money is the central issue. I, personally, think that the villagers at White Mountain simply feel disenfranchised. We have visited their land on a regular basis for many years without asking permission and without saying &#8220;Xie xie.&#8221; The small gesture that we made to them &#8211; shaking hands and expressing our gratitude &#8211; was enough to assuage their anger and resentment. The final resolution of the issue will, undoubtedly, not be so simple.</p>
<p>Saturday&#8217;s events recalled the struggles that organizations like the Access Fund take on regularly in the West. Yet in places like Yangshuo, where there is little official representation by the global climbing community, we often rely on locals with a vested economic interest to act on our behalf. As Keaty so clearly expresses, though, this is one situtation where our interests and the interests of local guiding companies diverge, highlighting the need for a more global treatment of the access issue.</p>
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